Thursday, June 11, 2009

A response to comments made by Association of Graduates from Universities and Colleges of China, Malaysia

I am given to understand that the chairman of the Association of Graduates from Universities and Colleges of China, Malaysia has commented over my blog posting. One should not be too emotional over this issue and regard it as a Chinese issue. It is an education issue that involves 2 countries, Malaysia and China.

When I was the Minister of health, I persuaded the Cabinet to recognize Nanjing University, Beijing University and Shanghai University’s courses in traditional Chinese medicine. This is to ensure that Malaysian Chinese who are trained in these 3 universities can then practice alongside western trained medical practitioner. This is important to give recognition to a lot of Chinese traditional practitioners in this country and would lay the groundwork if we develop an integrated hospital combining western and traditional Chinese medicine. Today, I am proud that there are traditional Chinese medicine unit in Putrajaya hospital and Kepala Batas hospital.

It was also during the time of Dato’ Seri Ong Ka Ting and myself as Minister of Health that we persuaded the Cabinet to recognize Chinese language degree from Beijing University and Tsing Hua University.

Whether or not the government recognizes the degree from Chinese universities, Malaysia students will continue to go to China to pursue their education. If the university is well known, students don’t have to worry about their recognition. They can work anywhere and be accepted. There are a lot of Malaysian Chinese having degree from China doing very well in Malaysia and other parts of the world. Do not turn an educational issue of recognition into a racial issue.

Meanwhile, leading universities in China is unlikely to set up branch campus in Malaysia because I understand that the Chinese government does not allow it. In China, there are also restrictions in the number of student intake into leading universities.

Currently, I’m helping two private institutions to set up two branch campus from China in collaboration with local universities. Accusing me that I do not think from the perspective of the Chinese community, I leave it to the Chinese to judge me. Whatever it is, I am not emotional in looking at problems from a narrow racial angle.

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马来西亚留华同学会会长陈志成针对我在部落格一文中其中一项论点作出批评。

(我在该文说:多数大马华裔对投身公共服务领域无兴趣,因此承认或不承认中国大学文凭并不是重要的事

我认为,承认大学文凭是一项牵涉马中两国政府的教育课题。我认为,各造不该情绪化来看待有关课题,更不应该把它视为华社课题。

我担任卫生部长期间,成功说服内阁承认南京大学、北京大学及上海大学的传统医药学位,目的是确保在这3所大学修读中医药课程的马来西亚华人,回国后可以和本地的西医相辅实践。这项突破对国内中医师而言,是一项重大的肯定和认同,并且为我国日后推广中西医结合医院的努力奠立基础。今天,我为布城和抛甲峇底两家医院设有中医部感到高兴和骄傲

此外,马华前总会长丹斯里黄家定在位期间,我与黄总也成功说服内阁承认北京大学及清华大学的中文系学位。

政府承认中国大学文凭与否,我国学生仍纷纷赴华深造。若所选择的是众所周知、声明显赫的大学,学生无需多虑,因为他们在任何地方都被接受。事实证明,许多留华的大马人在国内甚至海外各国都有优越的表现。因此,不要把文凭承认的教育问题,化为种族课题。

与此同时,据我了解,中国的顶尖大学来马设分校的可能性不大。据了解,有关计划必须获得中国政府准许。而且,中国顶尖大学的收生学额也有所限制。

目前,我也在协助中国两所私立教育机构与本地大学建立合作,在马来西亚设立分校。因此,说我不站在华社立场设想的指责,我交由华社判断。

不管怎样,我坚持不以狭隘和情绪化的种族角度来看待教育问题。

9 comments:

chchoo said...

Dr. Chua, please do not deviate from the main issue. If there is an equal ground for non-Malays to compete in the public sector, there will be many of us lining up for the job. Who wants to be Ah Long if they can get a similar role/job in the government service?

This is not a racial issue and you are twisting words to serve your political ambitions.

I used to respect you but seeing how you play your political games in the last few months, I am puzzled.

朱刚明 said...

Don't worry Datuk, it just happened that your statement could be interpreted either way, that's why the misunderstanding. Your declaration should be good enough to clear the air.

crazyElly said...

Dear Dr.Chua,
I don't see any problems for Malaysia to accept some specific of the qualifications for those students who have completed their educations in China especially in TCM (traditional chinese medicine).

We have to admit that these recent years many of our neighboring countries like Brunei Darussalam even our ownself, Malaysia have sent many patients to China for meditation treatments. Many of the patients have recovered and too received standard meditation treatments there.

Another thing which we have to think and take note about is the general reason regarding why our students choose to further their studies there.
I would say the standard of living ,the chance of getting experiences in term of study (especially those who have medical practice), course fees led to this.
Some how the standard of education and those who hold private chinese qualification (secondary school) of our country its own have to take reconsideration again for our gov't.

We have to admit that Malaysia do left out from the advanced technology and some expertise which mastered by China, such as those in technology, bio-engineering , economy-expertise etc...

Perhaps there is some fields of course which our country might need to take reconsideration again toward the qualification of its entry/acceptance to our country,I do agree on this though .
Maybe we can look towards and accept some of those qualifications which do reach the international standard. I would like to strengthen on the fact regarding the knowledge of TCM educations found in china always the top of the nation and ours here need to make some more efforts on.

All the best Mr.chua.

crazyellysee@Hui Ling

Chris said...

Dr Chua,
Even though you said that Malaysian with a degree not recognize by government still have good jobs, but you fail to address the challenges that those people faced.

There are many universities with a global ranking higher than USM or UM that is not recognized by the government. The students can't even apply for EPF Education withdrawal to get their Master degree's from this university.

So these are really unnecessary "challenges" and obstacles

Tuanku said...

Dear Dr Chua,

It is pointless for Dr Chua to play the education issue again for purpose of gaining political mileage and sympathy from all local Chinese to support MCA. Frankly speaking MCA and Gerakan are closed-shop parties in the mind of many Chinese Malaysians today.

Simple reason is many educated Chinese Malaysians are badly discriminated by BN leaders including the many main running dogs in MCA & Gerakan for past 50 years till today. Many good Chinese students are denied their rights for tertiary educations in public universities, scholarships,
jobs in civil services and etc.

Chines people are the main contributors of income tax in Malaysia but yet our Chinese children have been denied their rights for better education and financial assistance from BN govt. In short the public universities in China secured outstanding world ranking positions as compared with the degrading poor ranking of our local universities.

The doctors graduated from Chinese universities are very much smarter and superior than the local doctors in Malaysia today. Malaysians can talk only and shout about Malaysia BOLEH but never walk the talk in their professions today. You can see many foreign patients especially the migrant workers and illegal migrants occupied the govt hospitals because Malaysian public less confidence on the professionalism of local trained doctors working in govt hospitals now.

If MCA leaders continued to fight for their own personal interests at the expenses of Chinese communities , then MCA sinking ship will sink deeper into South China Sea forever. 10 chinese youth and elder voters interviewed today, 90% voters said MCA is a corpse party today, 5% voters said MCA is a cancer party and 5% voters said MCA is an ICU party.

What a great shame to 1Malaysia ?

Gemini said...

MCA president Ong Tee Keat is morally obliged to severe ties with Umno following a survey which revealed that an overwhelming number of Malaysians, especially the Chinese, supported this.
In making the call, DAP national chairperson Karpal Singh said Ong failed to admit that his party has lost its credibility among Chinese Malaysians as demonstrated in the last general election.

"Isn't Ong morally obliged to pull out MCA from BN in line with the survey? Of course, this would be unexpected of Ong.

"He and his cabinet colleagues are only interested in perpetuating their own selfish interests," he charged in a statement today.

Karpal was referring to a recent survey titled ‘Should MCA leave BN?’ featured on the MCA president’s blog.

The survey, which ran since last October, revealed that a staggering 75.8 percent of respondents wanted MCA to severe its political ties with Umno and pull out from the ruling coalition.

The survey was removed from the blog today.

Quoted from Malaysiakini.

wartank said...

Dear Dato Seri,
We should not deviate from the big picture here.
To actually request for something and getting it done are two very different things. One is just to show work done and the other is actually achieving something.
The fact that they are accepted for work, they got them through their own effort with no help from the government.
This also reflected the bargaining power of other component parties in BN. With the 'unity government' between UMNO and PAS being negotiated, one wonders what hope there is for the coalition's other races.
It's obvious we, the 'other communities' might have to bail ship!

KW Tan

呉 和豪 said...

SAUDARA DATO SERI CHUA SOI LEK
[我担任卫生部长期间,成功说服内阁承认南京大学、北京大学及上海大学的传统医药学位,目的是确保在这3所大学修读中医药课程的马来西亚华人,回国后可以和本地的西医相辅实践。]
1不管白猫或黑猫只要会捉老鼠就是猫,不管中医或是西医只要能治好病就是良医。
过去我有听过蔡细历医生非常排坼中医,我也不能尽信片面之言,希望你能在这课题上表明你的立场。
2为何只提‘“修读中医药课程的马来西亚华人”而不是“修读中医药课程的马来西亚人”

問文 said...

马华不是都鼓励华裔当公务员的吗?

如果政府肯承认这些文凭,不是能吸引更多华裔去当公务员吗?

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