SAPP’s motion of no confidence against the Prime Minister is one from the high political drama. But it is unlikely to lead to a mass defection on Barisan Nasional’s partnership. SAPP has only 2 members of Parliament and 4 state assemblymen in Sabah. So pulling out of BN draws a lot of attention and it only serves to shake UMNO. But BN will be continuing in power.
In this context, a favorite question is why MCA not leaving BN?
MCA’s association with UMNO has a long history dating back to pre-independence. Through thick and thin MCA, MIC has been with UMNO. In the post 308 change political landscape, MCA has been often been accused as a running dog of UMNO. The younger generation has forgotten the early days of Malaya and the later days of Malaysia, It was through a close collaboration of MCA, MIC and UMNO that provided a solid foundation of 3 major races to work together. This formed the basis of the political and social stability in this country.
Unfortunately this is often been disregarded and dismissed by many younger generations that MCA like to live on the past glory and forget the future challenges. There is a tendency of taking for granted the social cohesion and stability which is in reality is fragile. MCA leaving BN is a big issue that needs detail deliberation. When we leave the government and the cabinet, who looks after the Chinese interest? Will PAS, DAP or PKR who has no representation in the cabinet be able to do so? It is often easier said than done.
While we may not be performing up to the expectation of the Chinese but this crucial role should not be taken lightly. I have the opportunity to serve at the state cabinet as EXCO for 3 terms and Federal Cabinet Minister nearly 1 term, my concern is if MCA leave BN, can MCA stand alone? Even DAP found it difficult and has to join forces with PAS and PKR.
I have said many times, can we trust PAS? Work with the devil you know than the devil you don’t know. Until we are clear and sure the long term objective of PAS, we will not, and should not be comfortable sleeping with PAS. Not many people are aware that PAS has the biggest organization, better resources and more members than PKR which very Anwar centric. Until then, MCA will still remains with BN and together we weather the storm.
In the post 308 we have seen the likely emergence of the 2 party systems in this country. In the long term its good for the Rakyat. However, if everybody condemn and desert BN, again we are left with one party system, the PKR. So don’t be too euphoric. While BN may have messed up and not performed to the expectation, PR is still untested. Choose the partner that you know with all its defects and deficiencies, or a partner who is untested and of unknown quality? Be rational in our thinking and not be too emotional. We may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
In this context, a favorite question is why MCA not leaving BN?
MCA’s association with UMNO has a long history dating back to pre-independence. Through thick and thin MCA, MIC has been with UMNO. In the post 308 change political landscape, MCA has been often been accused as a running dog of UMNO. The younger generation has forgotten the early days of Malaya and the later days of Malaysia, It was through a close collaboration of MCA, MIC and UMNO that provided a solid foundation of 3 major races to work together. This formed the basis of the political and social stability in this country.
Unfortunately this is often been disregarded and dismissed by many younger generations that MCA like to live on the past glory and forget the future challenges. There is a tendency of taking for granted the social cohesion and stability which is in reality is fragile. MCA leaving BN is a big issue that needs detail deliberation. When we leave the government and the cabinet, who looks after the Chinese interest? Will PAS, DAP or PKR who has no representation in the cabinet be able to do so? It is often easier said than done.
While we may not be performing up to the expectation of the Chinese but this crucial role should not be taken lightly. I have the opportunity to serve at the state cabinet as EXCO for 3 terms and Federal Cabinet Minister nearly 1 term, my concern is if MCA leave BN, can MCA stand alone? Even DAP found it difficult and has to join forces with PAS and PKR.
I have said many times, can we trust PAS? Work with the devil you know than the devil you don’t know. Until we are clear and sure the long term objective of PAS, we will not, and should not be comfortable sleeping with PAS. Not many people are aware that PAS has the biggest organization, better resources and more members than PKR which very Anwar centric. Until then, MCA will still remains with BN and together we weather the storm.
In the post 308 we have seen the likely emergence of the 2 party systems in this country. In the long term its good for the Rakyat. However, if everybody condemn and desert BN, again we are left with one party system, the PKR. So don’t be too euphoric. While BN may have messed up and not performed to the expectation, PR is still untested. Choose the partner that you know with all its defects and deficiencies, or a partner who is untested and of unknown quality? Be rational in our thinking and not be too emotional. We may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.
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沙巴进步党欲通过动议投不信认票倒伐首相，这可是大马政史上的一大政治剧。 尽管该党来势汹汹，但要致使国阵严重分裂似乎不太可能。现有2名国会议员和4名州议员的沙巴进步党若决定要退出国阵，确实将激起层层涟漪，引来全国瞩目，但最终或只能撼动巫统，不至于击跨国阵，国阵还是会继续稳坐中央。
沙进步党的举动，自然而然促使民众对国阵其他成员党的去留表示关注。那为何马华不脱离国阵？
马华和巫统的结盟始于独立前时代。从携手抗敌到共谋独立，马华、印度国大党和巫统不避艰险、共同赴汤蹈火。但自308政治版图大变脸以来，马华一直被指盲从巫统，俗称为巫统的“走狗”，这项指责不公也不对。新生代渐渐忘了，早前的马来亚和现在的马来西亚的建立和存在，是这个联盟紧密合作所达致的成果。通过马华、印度国大党和巫统的领导和带动，我国三大种族方能在牢固的基础上共同合作，并为我国的政治和社会稳定立下根基。
不幸的，政党在建国史上的努力和付出并未确确实实受到新生代的重视和理解。部分新生代以为马华只沉醉于昔日的荣耀而忘记了未来的使命和挑战。不难发觉，有者趋于视我国当前的社会凝聚力和稳定为当然，事实上他们无法看清，这股凝聚力是脆弱的。马华是否应该退出国阵是个大课题，需要深思熟虑。若马华脱离国阵，在中央政府内，谁照顾华社的利益呢？没有中央政府代表的公正党、行动党和回教党可以做到吗？（我这么一说，肯定再度招致部落客抨击）但这是事实。很多时候，不在其位焉知其政？
我们能相信回教党吗？所谓明枪易挡，暗箭难防，除非我们对回教党的理念、长期和终极目标了如指掌，否则不该轻易和此陌生的政党“共眠”。目前，马华仍坚持与国阵相守，同舟共济。不说不知，许多人还不了解，若媲比以安华为本的公正党，回教党其实拥有更多资源、更多党员和更完善的组织架构。
308以后，我们喜见两党制雏形的诞生，长远而言，这对人民有利无弊。不过，若所有人都一味言谴国阵、遗弃国阵，失去人民支持的国阵将无立足之地。届时，我国的政治格局将打回原形，换由安华独大的公正党领导国家。因此，人民不应过于开心而忘形。
观察员无不排除部分国阵成员党将跳槽民联。国阵的表现虽未达致人民期望，但人民联盟和其成员党是否经得起考验，仍是个未知数。一个你已熟知其本性包括缺点的伙伴，及一个未经考验未知质量的陌生人，该选择哪个为盟友呢？我们必须理性思考，万不能因个人得失而感情用事，以免误下判断，因小失大。
沙巴进步党欲通过动议投不信认票倒伐首相，这可是大马政史上的一大政治剧。 尽管该党来势汹汹，但要致使国阵严重分裂似乎不太可能。现有2名国会议员和4名州议员的沙巴进步党若决定要退出国阵，确实将激起层层涟漪，引来全国瞩目，但最终或只能撼动巫统，不至于击跨国阵，国阵还是会继续稳坐中央。
沙进步党的举动，自然而然促使民众对国阵其他成员党的去留表示关注。那为何马华不脱离国阵？
马华和巫统的结盟始于独立前时代。从携手抗敌到共谋独立，马华、印度国大党和巫统不避艰险、共同赴汤蹈火。但自308政治版图大变脸以来，马华一直被指盲从巫统，俗称为巫统的“走狗”，这项指责不公也不对。新生代渐渐忘了，早前的马来亚和现在的马来西亚的建立和存在，是这个联盟紧密合作所达致的成果。通过马华、印度国大党和巫统的领导和带动，我国三大种族方能在牢固的基础上共同合作，并为我国的政治和社会稳定立下根基。
不幸的，政党在建国史上的努力和付出并未确确实实受到新生代的重视和理解。部分新生代以为马华只沉醉于昔日的荣耀而忘记了未来的使命和挑战。不难发觉，有者趋于视我国当前的社会凝聚力和稳定为当然，事实上他们无法看清，这股凝聚力是脆弱的。马华是否应该退出国阵是个大课题，需要深思熟虑。若马华脱离国阵，在中央政府内，谁照顾华社的利益呢？没有中央政府代表的公正党、行动党和回教党可以做到吗？（我这么一说，肯定再度招致部落客抨击）但这是事实。很多时候，不在其位焉知其政？
我们能相信回教党吗？所谓明枪易挡，暗箭难防，除非我们对回教党的理念、长期和终极目标了如指掌，否则不该轻易和此陌生的政党“共眠”。目前，马华仍坚持与国阵相守，同舟共济。不说不知，许多人还不了解，若媲比以安华为本的公正党，回教党其实拥有更多资源、更多党员和更完善的组织架构。
308以后，我们喜见两党制雏形的诞生，长远而言，这对人民有利无弊。不过，若所有人都一味言谴国阵、遗弃国阵，失去人民支持的国阵将无立足之地。届时，我国的政治格局将打回原形，换由安华独大的公正党领导国家。因此，人民不应过于开心而忘形。
观察员无不排除部分国阵成员党将跳槽民联。国阵的表现虽未达致人民期望，但人民联盟和其成员党是否经得起考验，仍是个未知数。一个你已熟知其本性包括缺点的伙伴，及一个未经考验未知质量的陌生人，该选择哪个为盟友呢？我们必须理性思考，万不能因个人得失而感情用事，以免误下判断，因小失大。
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As far as I am concerned, it is still BN for me. What we need is just more bargaining chips and unless we are strong and consolidated, we are not able to do that.
We can't even trust those Umno Muslims who are in our own camp, let alone trust those outside the camp. Have you guys forgot about those hudud laws that were proposed? In Saudi where hudud laws were practised, they cut off the thief's hand if caught stealing. Can't imagine if they caught you with another Muslim woman in bed. Sorry, doc..bad joke.
But the point here is that our Chinese culture and way of life cannot be put at risk at the hands of PAS. It is easy to know and handle Umno who are more interested in money. It is those who are not interested in money or anything that get me worried.
MCA fighting for the Chinese? That must be a joke. First of all MCA contributed so little to the Chinese, their existence is not justifiable. Second is that, we dont need a party to fight for Chinese. Thats a racist mindset. We need a party that fights for the well beings of all races. We dont need history lesson here about MCA. MCA might had been instrumental then. But MCA today is a sham. Leaders are either weak, or cower in fear or suspiciously corrupted. Yes, one might call this baseless accusations. But from the way I see it, when MCA enjoyed the support of the Chinese, they brag about it. When they lost much Chinese support, you say we forgot about MCA past contributions. Let me remind you that attitude like this that had made MCA walk 2 steps back. And by the way SAPP only have 2 Parliment seats and not 3. Feel free to correct that posting.
SAPP has 2 MPs and 4 ADUNs
Dr,MCA can't afford to just sit idle and let umno do the bashing.Being the second biggest component party we definitely have some bargaining power.But what we always see the need for MCA to respond to all the nasty accusations instead MCA kept quiet.To ask to be fairly treated is not a sin.We chinese don't demand for equal rights which I think we also should.If the President of MCA cannot ensure that we chinese are being treated fairly then he has fail in his duty.I just only ask that we be treated FAIRLY.Is that too much?
oh my god!! trying to put the fear factor again into the people's mind. sorry-lah it won't work anymore. See for yourself the result of the last GE. Besides, why deny another party a chance? After all, the present one SUCKS!!!!! and as i have mentioned before, MCA will always remain loyal to BN because why should they want change when they have benefitted so much from BN?
Tak payah-lah cakap banyak banyak. Its all cari makan.
dr chua
sorry to say this..dr chua u might be wrong.Malaysia is a Islamic Country and u must be more sensitive in this issue. Your party intention is good which is MCA take a responsibility on the chinese rigths.But plz! dont presume PAS as a devil party.Both MCA n PAS has a big difference political ideology n Most Malaysian understand and accept it as a opposition party which deserve to fight base on Islamic rules.U should not to say that!!
Dr.Chua,tidak keterlaluan kalau saya katakan Malaysia kini memerlukan sebuah parti yang meyokong perjuagan berlandaskan Islam dan pastinya ini tidak dpat diterima oleh kebanyakan bukan Islam.saya juga bukan penyokong Parti PAS secara keseluruhannya malah saya adalah pro BN semasa pemerintahan Tun.Saya juga tidak mahu pembangkang mempunyai kuasa majoriti tetapi pihak pembangkang perlu ada bagi mencapai ketelusan dan kestabilan politik negara.Cuma saya kurang selesa kerana masih ada yang bukan Islam sama sekali tidak menghormati agama Islam sebagai agama rasmi Malaysia.
For some it may be shadow-playing drama
Some others may merely regard it as 'karma'
A few strictly want all evidences in camera
Afterall, all crooks are almost just the same, 'sama-sama'
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True... SAPP's motion of no confidence against that dumbo PM is not going to shake anything. BN will continue to rule and flinch all of us. But of all the parties we have, I must say SAPP truly has the GUTS to say what they want to say.
As for MCA, well, what can I say? No guts is an understatement! All those talks about how MCA's association with UMNO has a long history dating back to zaman dulu, how a close collaboration of MCA, MIC and UMNO has provided a solid foundation of 3 major races to work together and this formed the basis of the political and social stability in the country is nothing but reminiscent of the past! What about those abuse MCA or rather, the chinese suffered at the hands of UMNO? What about those arrogant and bias attitude towards the Chinese? What are those!?
To reminiscent the past glory days as a team is liken to an abused spouse beaten black and blue telling how good and perfect his/her partner was and could still be if given a chance. Still holding on to that imaginary hope/chance that the glory days will be back is a sure sign of weakness. Denial and being weak will eventually kill the abused spouse. Same here with MCA.
That theory about working with the devil you know rather than the devil you dont know and PR being not tested.. well, there will come a time to try the untested or perhaps work with an unknown devil. No gamble no gain... We are already hitting rock bottom real soon with BN, how further bad can we get if we are to try the untested or the devil we don't know?
Yes, we may be euphoric for the moment but after the bitter lesson of being "abused" by BN for so long, most of us know what to do when the untested don't toe the line or don't deliver. We have regained our confidence and redeem our rights. We are no longer that sad abused spouse because we took the courage to walk i.e. chose the path that is untested and of unknown quality.
Well, dr, i understand what u hav been saying n worrying. Of course, in ur (MCA) position, it is not de best time to leave BN yet. But what I emphasis here is - YOU O SHOULD NOT BACK UMNO NOW TOO!!
What is de use to stretch UMNO back when Yong Teck Lee decided on no confidence motion. U o can just keep quiet and say "we ll continue monitor de situation."
Bt what people out there (esp CHinese) tak tahan is MCA still shout it loud that "we support UMNO!!" never 4get UMNO does not really treat u well. If u show ur "loyalty" now oso u won't get anyting better in return.
U o hav misjudge and misbehave in dis incident. Wat ll resulted to u is de deterioration of MCA image.
Hey funniman1965! You really talk funny lah!
You'd rather crawl into bed with UMNO because you think they are only interested in material riches? Islam is not the least bit important to them? Just take a good look around you. Every Malay, be it a PAS or UMNO man, is deeply sensitive to the Islam religion. Maybe an UMNO man won't be seen wearing a jubah or his kopiah 24/7 as often as a PAS man would, but that UMNO man too would defend the honour of Islam as fervently as his PAS counterpart.
As it is now, UMNO is surely playing the Islam tune to the hilt.
Who is the one who slowly turned our schools into an Islamic playground? Who is the one who condoned religous body snatching? Even for the Carrefour counter check-out Malay girl to touch properly packed dog food is haram! Since we are on a roll, let's not forget who ordered Jawi names on road names in Taman Seputeh. The list could go on...
You sure you still want to sleep with UMNO? You sure your Chinese culture is not at risk when you cozy up to UMNO?
Which sounds better
PASS or PUS ???
Dear Dr. Chua,
President Ong already showed that he support the BN and will not betray PM. What if you are the president, what will you do?
God Bless.......................
G'mor Dr.
You are extremely right when you say MCA n MIC was with umno during thick or thin situation but umno failed to give a due respect to this two loyal friend. When they are in full power it's never cross their mind on BN spirit but now even when SAPP throw out the open challenge they do not dare to take any actions and talking nonsense about BN spirit. If they have give a respect to this two party and treat them equally I dont think the Indians and Chinese will decide to shoo away BN. But then I do feel it's MCA n MIC weakness too when they fail to get the deserve respect from umno. They should stand to say no to umno stupid agenda but then ...... now it's too late......
"Choose the partner that you know with all its defects and deficiencies, or a partner who is untested and of unknown quality? Be rational in our thinking and not be too emotional. We may be jumping from the frying pan into the fire."
When you have been through hell, everything else is a bonus.
When you have hit rock-bottom and down in the pits, up is only one way to go.
Not so much of the 50 years under BN, but especially the last 30 years under BN, it has been nothing but unpleasant. Even if the next guy who wins the election is a KAYU, a dungu, an inexperience chap, I'd still prefer him to the present govt.
Like I said, when you have been through hell, anything else is a welcome change.
Dear All,
MCA has been moving around with the notion that they are fighting for the Chinese in Malaysia as long as we can remember. During the early days they were fighting along side with UMNO and later joined by MIC for independence. The objective of having a tripartite government was probably the order of the day then. Of course, I believe many of the yesteryears leaders were also interested in the distribution of portfolios after achieving independence. It is foolish to believe that this notion does not ranked high on their list then. However, there are some Chinese politicians who were probably more interested in the business opportunity presented to them after independence. If one care to investigate deeper, you will notice that MCA wasn't given the second top post in the cabinet despite being the second largest component party. They opted for finance instead as the reason appeared obvious. For 12 years prior to May 69, the MCA leaders then were too busy looking into their own biz interests then to fight for the Chinese. A lady told me that in 1957 to 1963, droves of Chinese were shipped back to China due to inability of obtaining citizenship. Chinese were hard pressed to get the "kong man tin" aka status permastautin then as many may be illiterate and lack of avenues and strings to pull for speedy application. Where were MCA then? Of course MCA could have stop those leaving Malaya then.
Post 69 had demonstrated to us that MCA was emasculated and the Finance Minister post being snatched away right under their nose. They were too soft to say anything then. Come to think of it, maybe MCa wanted to teach the Chinese a lesson for voting opposition and create a story that they lost the post due to lack of support from the community that they dearly defended. The rest is history.
MCA top dog is holding the Housing Ministerial and others are just holding unimportant and menial posts. Sad to say but MCa has always been using the cooperation of three parties i.e. UMNO, MCA and MIC as their top storyline. Time has changed and I think it is best that they reinvent themselves with the Chinese population dwindling fast. It would have been helpful if those droves were not sent off back in 57 to 63.
Dear All,
MCA has been moving around with the notion that they are fighting for the Chinese in Malaysia as long as we can remember. During the early days they were fighting along side with UMNO and later joined by MIC for independence. The objective of having a tripartite government was probably the order of the day then. Of course, I believe many of the yesteryears leaders were also interested in the distribution of portfolios after achieving independence. It is foolish to believe that this notion does not ranked high on their list then. However, there are some Chinese politicians who were probably more interested in the business opportunity presented to them after independence. If one care to investigate deeper, you will notice that MCA wasn't given the second top post in the cabinet despite being the second largest component party. They opted for finance instead as the reason appeared obvious. For 12 years prior to May 69, the MCA leaders then were too busy looking into their own biz interests then to fight for the Chinese. A lady told me that in 1957 to 1963, droves of Chinese were shipped back to China due to inability of obtaining citizenship. Chinese were hard pressed to get the "kong man tin" aka status permastautin then as many may be illiterate and lack of avenues and strings to pull for speedy application. Where were MCA then? Of course MCA could have stop those leaving Malaya then.
Post 69 had demonstrated to us that MCA was emasculated and the Finance Minister post being snatched away right under their nose. They were too soft to say anything then. Come to think of it, maybe MCa wanted to teach the Chinese a lesson for voting opposition and create a story that they lost the post due to lack of support from the community that they dearly defended. The rest is history.
MCA top dog is holding the Housing Ministerial and others are just holding unimportant and menial posts. Sad to say but MCa has always been using the cooperation of three parties i.e. UMNO, MCA and MIC as their top storyline. Time has changed and I think it is best that they reinvent themselves with the Chinese population dwindling fast. It would have been helpful if those droves were not sent off back in 57 to 63.
Dr, I'm very critical of the way MCA is been led not by Mr Ong Ka Ting alone but by umno whose LEASH is not only getting SHORTER but getting TIGHTER.One day it will be so short that mca can't move,so tight that mca can't bark anymore.
funniman. You are bordering the line of hatred in your comments. Why exactly are you grouping "umno muslims" in one category.
If we really want to make this malaysian for malaysia thing, or anything along those lines. THAT is one attitude that should be banished from your head. From ALL malaysians heads to say the least.
How long can the MCA play the devil you know is better than the devil you don't? There is also the flip side.
People who know you support them irrespective will take you for granted. The role of MCA in the BN has deteriorated over the last two decades.
Is the MCA going to be just happy to be a token in a coalition, and continue to corrode because demographically the number of Chinese citizens is dropping?
我们很多人都认同马华若要脱离国阵的确是一项非常重大的课题，但那也是一个不需要被强烈否定的可能(Highly considerable option)！马华现在需要的就是"可能"，因为马华实在"不可能"得太久了！久得让您所谓的"战略伙伴--巫统"，甚至于巫青都不将马华看在眼里了！
华社的合理要求叫做"敏感的诉求"，而巫青团长举剑却被解读为"捍卫国土的勇气"；试问，这一切还算得上国阵精神吗？
巫统领袖时时以对付华裔的举动，挑衅华社，制造华族对马华的不满，借以在国阵团队当中压制马华的选票和议员比例，这是明眼人都看得到的事实，我甚至可以这么说："巫统爱火箭，比爱马华还要多！"，难道，这也是国阵精神吗？
马华在朝的工作，客观看，以今天世界上任何一个华裔占少数的国家来说，的确不容否定，但要知道，不是每个国家的独立，都有这么大比例的华人在参与贡献！马来民族不是唯一为国家独立付出的民族，国父及敦陈祯禄也不曾提出像今天如此不堪的偏颇；但今天我们所面对的一切不平等，却在历史的演化中，藉着国阵团队的构造被推挤到如此畸形的地步，试问，作为国阵的第二大成员党，马华能辞其咎吗？
若谈历史，当年的陈修信一意孤行，带领马华杯葛国会的不智行径，结果造就了今天这么多不平等的种族政策，请问，这个责任应由谁来负？如果要华人承认马华的贡献，则马华也必需承担这项历史责任！
再说今日人民对马华的要求其实也不多，我们可以这么说，如果当初建国时联盟的情操已只剩下回忆，而除了马华之外，早已没人愿意当一回事，那马华就像一个活在暴力家庭里的主妇，日夜忍受无理的责打痛抠，甚至有时连丈夫和小姨太生的儿子也掺上一脚，对她刮上两巴掌，而她只能躲在门扇后偷偷流泪哭泣，缅怀着当初恋爱时的美好时光，尽管丈夫早已不把她当人看待，但她却依旧深爱着他，期待着他回头的那一天...
马华继续保持单一种族政党一点也没有错，这样的结构不见得就会比别的政党来得逊色，至少马华知道自已的愿景和任务是什么！但是，每个时代的人有每个时代要做的事，上一代的马华必须承担陈修信遗留下来的责任，这一代的马华就必须走出这个阴霾！调整早已过期的社会契约，这才不失为民族政党！
就如今天黄家定所做的，我们看到当伯拉被置疑时，第一个站出来挺他的（实在一点，第一个出来挡子弹的），是马华... 这么没有政治智慧的举动实在让人掉眼镜！第一，证明了马华永远的处事哲学：帮亲不帮理；第二，应用筹码的无知与无能；第三，罔顾民情，盲目否定可能性的作风；第四，PohLanPa 唯恐不及的心态... 试问，有哪一位选民愿意将手中一票投给这种政党，这种领袖？
要谈国阵精神，必须先看看时局现状，在黑人都能选美国总统的今天，马华还真的要对已成历史的感情 "意难忘" 的 "坚持" 吗？即然大家都知道不是每一个种族都能跟得上时代的步伐，那马华就应该以此为导向，勇敢的面对现实，提出问题的征结，我们不能期望友族能有大跃进，但至少能得到多一个反思的机会；在种族结构如此吊诡的国家，华裔对马华的期望，仅仅如此。
Some of the examples in MCA like Dtk. Ling Liong Sik, Ong Ka Ting and Chan Kong Choy they all SUCKS....
Actually from what we observed is that MCA never fight for Chinese they are just chained by UMNO and walk along like dogs..Sorry to say this..because we lost confidence with MCA unless it is revamp and changed completely from the bottom ground. We don't trust the old folks (the Seniors).
Malaysian Chinese have contributed so much and hard survived for so many years. Without Chinese Boleh where is Malaysia now??? Mainly because Chinese are main financial contributors for Malaysia even during the earlier days..
MCA just let racist issue continue to whip upon our Chinese buttocks. Why shall we derserves these???
Does any leaders in MCA protect the dignity of our Chinese community when those racist holligans speaks and shouted in Parliament to ask Chinese to go back to Tong Shan???
Without Yap Ah Loy where is Kuala Lumpur today???
Without Cheng Her where is Melaka??
Without Hang Tuah (Hang is the Surname of Ang and Tuah is a Hokkien word stands for The Eldest Brother in the family of Ang) will Parameswara able to conquer during Siam's attack???
Chinese have long time landed in the land of Kelantan before Malacca..and those Chinese at that time are mostly Chinese Islamic. Therefore Batik is actually the warisan from China so as the Wayang Kulit (similiar as the Puppet show in China).
With due respect, I must correct Nur’s statement that Malaysia is an Islamic state. It is not. Malaysia is a secular state, but Islam is the national religion. Further, it is wrong to say that non Muslims do not respect Islam; we all do, and in all aspects of our daily life.
Nur, tidaklah betul apabila Nur mengatakan bahawa kaum bukan Islam tidak menghormati agama Islam, sebenarnya, kami semua, maksud saya kaum bukan Islam, dengan sepenuh hati kami menghormati agama Islam, sepertimana kami menghormati agama-agama lain. Pada halnya, penghormatan yang diberi kepada sesuatu agama atau kepada kaum lain, adalah “mutual”, maksudnya jika kita merasa kita dihormati oleh orang lain, dengan secara ototomik dan sertamerta kita akan memberi penghormatan kepada pihak lain.
Pada halnya, sebab-sebab kaum bukan Islam tidak merasa senanghati dengan PAS, dan seterusnya secara tidak sedar, merasa tidak sengan dan khuatir dengan agama Islam adalah kerana propaganda PAS bahawa apabila parti ini pemperolehi cukup kerusi untuk membubalkan perlembagaan dan menukar negara kita sebagai satu negera Islam, hukum-hukum hudud mengikut agama Islam akan diberikuatkuasa dan dijatuhkan kepada semua rakyat di Malaysia.
Soalan saya: saya adalah seorang beragama bukan Islam, patutkah hukum-hukum hudud dijatuhkan kepada saya? Itulah saya tidak berseteju.
Back to Chee Yong, he fails to understand that over the years, if not for the presence of MCA within the BN government, the Chinese would have faired even worse than what we are today. That said, it does not mean we are totally satisfied or happy with MCA. Much more needs to be done. These days, the younger generation Chinese largely feels disillusioned with MCA, and is easily carried away by the inflammatory slogans and speeches of DAP, even PAS. Imagine DAP working with PAS where these 2 parties having totally diametrically opposite policies and ideologies? It is only a marriage of convenience, loosely bonded by Anwar Ibrahim, whom I always think and judge him a schematic and dangerous man.
To me, the MCA has done a great deal in the last several years; its set-back in the GE12 was largely due to the hegemonic and “big brother” attitude of UMNO. It was not so much the voters, I mean non-Malay voters, were angry with MCA, more so because they were angry with UMNO. UMNO needs to do a soul searching and change its attitude if BN still hopes to win in the next general election, or else, with the sweeping change of voter’s mindset, BN may well be swept away totally by the sea change of voters’ frustration.
I quote the view of a political analyst on failure of BN component parties in Chinese: “國陣成員黨在308大選中失利，很大程度是因巫統的一黨獨大和政治霸權造成，而不是其他國陣成員黨的表現不好. “ That says it all.
Why voters were so angry with BN in GE12? To name a few “killing factors: The Lingan video tape on judiciary scandal; the Zakaria mansion in Klang due to total disregard of laws and order and the government’s turning a blind eye on it; blatant corruption; UMNO arrogance; issue of ketuanan Melayu; feeling of insecurity due to rampant robberies and rapes and the police’s total inability to provide peace and security, etc etc. They saw a ray hope in PR and the charisma of Anwar Ibrahim, with the implication of Hindraf, so went the results of GE12.
In fact if you ask any non Malay, few are asking for help or special treatment from the government; all we want is fairness to us all, and do it transparently. We will survive on our own, no matter how.
Dr Chua,
Nobody and no any single party is invincible in this world. In Malaysia as in the case of the Malays, Chinese and Indians. Without UMNO, Malays can still survive with PKR or PAS. Without MCA, Chinese will still be very much alive having DAP. Without MIC, Indians will still be around with the support of HINDRAF.
So, don't ever think that UMNO, MCA and MIC are that great and invincible that we Malaysians will perish without them. Mindset automatically changes when things around change. And for GOD's sake, please don't ever dig out again the old stale stories already known to many. What we see and possess today are entirely so different from what were of those earlier days.
A good quote from Chee Yong ....
'We dont need history lesson here about MCA. MCA might had been instrumental then. But MCA today is a sham. Leaders are either weak, or cower in fear or suspiciously corrupted'.
My comment is simple:
To know a devil is a lot more better than not to know an angel.
And I know Umno is the devil...but I would rather take my chance with them than to try with others. Reason is that we just cannot afford to take chances...there's too much risks.
By the way, Islam is NEVER part of this discussion. Extremists are.
Dr.
From your article, my sixth sense tells me that what you are writing is for us to read only and not really your opinion.... You are rather clever and shrewd because BIG BROTHER is also reading your blog.
You have to be on their good book and hoping to jump back into BN wagon!!!
Please tell us what you can do for the Chinese in Malaysia?
Your Vision for the Chinese and also your personal agenda.
With your enemy behind your back I foresee a difficult and frustatiing climb to the top again ... I see the cunning and smooth talking Chua Jui Meng is also testing the water..
What is your Chance???
Better jump ship and be known as a brave man who change the course for the Chinese then be branded as a opportunist politican.
Hei, Camon, you are damn right. Over the weeks, I notice Dr. Chua's blog and his opinion still reflect very much that of BN.
Dr. Chua, of course there is nothing wrong in defending BN's policies, but we also need to see more of your own assessment of the country's future and the best way for the Chinese. defend MCA's policies at your best if these policies and strategies stand the test.
No matter what, I still find this forum a useful place for us to tell you, the MCA and the BN bid brothers (if they care to read your blog) what we think.
For one thing, please update your bog more regularly. I notice sometimes it takes as long as more than 18 hours for an opinion to be published. If you have no time to monitor the blog, get some one full time to do it. Otherwise this blog may not be useful or meaningful as a place for opinion exchange.
You know why Lim Kit Siang's blog is so popular? besides his fiery articles, the blof is updated very regularly.
Everyone notices that a day after SAPP's Yong Teck Lee vowed to move a vote of no confidence on PM Abdullah, the ACA said it would investigate on a corruption charge on Yong. What a mean and dirty tactic it is!
I view this from 2 angles. Firstly, the ACA may give the whole world of reasons and say this is only a coincidence, who will believe it? Second, if the charges are true, it means the ACA has been sleeping in the past, or we can only say the reason it did not investigate on Yong Teck Lee was because until recently, Yong was still supportive of BN. The moment he goes against the BN, all kinds of charges will be levelled on him.
The ACA is really stupid enough to do this bad timing to give the public a bad image of itself, which is already down the drain, if it still has any ctredibility.
Does it mean that even if you are corrupt, but if you support BN, we will not investigate on you? So all those BN guys who are corrupt (you know it too well yourself), you better continue to kiss BN's ass.
Abdullah should give the ACA director a better piece of advice, since the ACA only reports to him.
Soi Lek,
In today's (June 23) STAR, Ka Chuan said and I quote:
"Barisan may be stronger without SAPP"
This is exactly what is wrong with MCA (or its current leaders) - talking from the orifice at your southern end!
If SAPP is no big deal, why all the hoo-hah over the Party leaving BN, why the threat, curse and critism from all your BN leaders, why the instant 'coincidental' ACA investigation on Yong?
As long as MCA continue to have leaders like the Ong Brothers, Chee Yeoung, Yen Yen and Mei Fun, (and Carol, oh my God!, please lah, save us the humiliation) I don't see the Party going far - I, for one will never give MCA my vote!
Also please don't call PAS a 'devil party' until you have trully taken the initiative to get to know their leaders, especially well-learned and articulate chaps like Husam, Sallehudin Ayub and Kamaruddin Jaffar. Even veteran leaders lkie Tok Guru Nik Aziz, Hadi and Mustafa have shown a lot of moderation lately in their approach towards the sensitivities of our multi-cultural polpulace.
Doc! remember the song - 'To know me, is to love me'. Let's not be partisan and shut our minds to the possibility of a progressive, just and united Malaysia.
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