Friday, April 11, 2008

Reply to a comment made by Lohsh/ 回应Lohsh的留言

Mr Loh,我绝对同意你的看法。身为一党之首却不处身内阁,这样的决定确实让人诧异。我们一直告诉选民投选马华,把他们的马华代表送入内阁。可是当马华总会长在大选中胜出后,却放弃内阁部长一职,这予人一种被误导的感觉。或许,为迎战即将来临的党选而专心巩固自己的势力,比出任部长代表华社更重要。

倘若党主席要重建党,他理应专心留在在总部进行检讨、策划和部署工作;他理应到在大选蒙受严重挫败的槟城、霹雳、雪兰莪、吉打和联邦直辖区进行安抚、了解和整顿。可是他反而急于到达到85%胜率的柔佛州。

也许,他认为赢党选比赢民心重要;也许,他在逃避显示自欺欺人,想居功于柔州马华的佳绩,以为他的出现可以确保这座堡垒继续强大……也许吧。也许最终,马华的总会长只是一名注重党选的华裔领袖,而马华最终演变成“区域政党”,活动和角色只受制于南马柔佛、马六甲和彭亨三州?谁知道呢?

总会长, 祝你好运!
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In reply to a comment made by Lohsh in "ASTRO AEC Forum video".
I fully agree with you that it is difficult for the Party President to be out of the cabinet. We told Chinese to vote for MCA so that we could have Cabinet representation but when he, the President won in the election and did not go into Cabinet, then he has misled the Chinese. Maybe consolidating his power in the coming party election is more important than representing the Chinese in the cabinet.

When the party president wanted to rebuild the party, he should have been concentrating his time in the headquarters. He should have gone to states like Penang, Perak, Selangor, Kedah and Wilayah Persekutuan that have lost badly in the general election, Instead, he chose to go to Johor where there was 85% win in the general election.

Maybe, his priority is in winning the coming party election instead of winning the confidence of Chinese or maybe he wants to escape the reality and claim credit that his OWN presence in Johor will ensure that Johor will remain the fortress of MCA. Who knows MCA will ultimately have a President who is more concerned with party election, thus we may be a regional party confine to the south of Malaysia, that is Johor, Malacca and Pahang.

GOD BLESS THE PRESIDENT!
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Lohsh wrote:
The MCA President opting to stay out of the new cabinet is the first step that MCA takes after its horrible performance in the recent GE. The President believes that as MCA fails to get a strong mandate from the Chinese, he can no longer rightfully represent the community in the cabinet. He therefore chooses to focus on party affairs to revitalize the party.
What is surprising is to see that the party leadership, led by the Deputy President, accepts the decision, although not without persuasion to the President to retract it, saying that they respect the president decision. So the decision, after all, is the party's decision.
The problem is it is hard for people to understand such a decision. The rationality and wisdom required of the party leader and leadership in making such a decision is nowhere to be seen.Perhaps we have been living in a very unhealthy political environment for too long, to the point that political leaders, particularly those in the governing position, always believe what they do is always right, it is other people or the voters who are always wrong, and they could not be bothered with the perception of the people.
Opting to stay out of the cabinet can be interpreted as the President believes that his presence in the cabinet is no longer representative of the Chinese wishes, if there are people who think he should not have stayed out, he should not be blamed, the fault lies on the Chinese, it is the Chinese who help create such a situation.
Let’s put aside the problems between MCA and the Chinese.As far as a political party is concerned, one cannot separate party affairs from political affairs. As a matter of fact, political affairs are the core business of a political party.
The crux of the matter here is, how can a party leader who opts to concentrate on party affairs, relegating the political affairs to second tier leaders, be able to lead the party effectively in flexing its political power and achieving its political ambitions?
It is hard to imagine the specific benefits that can result in strengthening the party if the President takes care of party affairs full time. Without attending to political affairs, the President has said, he can devote his energy and time to rebuild the party. If that be the reason, the question of a leader’s capability and stamina arises. Like it or not, under any circumstances, the leader of a political party must possess the required capability and stamina to execute party as well as political duties required of him.
In the present uncertainties, the UMNO President while taking on party affairs, has to take care of BN and shoulder the heaviest responsibility as the PM of the country. Just how convincing can it be to say it suffices to focus on party affairs?
Although there are 4 MCA ministers in the cabinet, one of them needs to be appointed as the MCA leader in the cabinet, to represent MCA in decision making. The President no longer represents MCA in the cabinet, and is merely a back bencher in the Parliament. Under such circumstances, just what is the political position and role of the President?
At the moment, other than the President, his deputy is apparently also taking care of part affairs only. Other than the MCA party leader and leadership, it is hard for anybody to see the rationale of the decision, and in what way it can positively help to further the political future of the party.
The party and its leadership can decide to do the rightful thing, but it will be left to the people to decide whether they agree or disagree with them.
In the next GE, if the President decides to return to the Kulai constituency, the people will decide whether they will cast a vote of confidence in a party President who opts to stay out of the cabinet. But before that, the MCA members will have to decide whether such a President will still be able to continue leading the party effectively.

17 comments:

SamWise said...

OKT : where got mislead ppl? I pass baton to my brother ma!

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ipohboy said...

I do not have any objection regarding OKT's decision.

I only disagree with him for appointing 4 new faces inside the new cabinet.

I do not think we will get any advantages or priorities when discussing the important issues during the meeting.

In fact, healthy politics don't work or hardly work in a non-healthy politic environments.

有话直说 said...

自308政治大海啸过去以后,很多巫统,国大,马华党的高层都开始改变方向改变作风,先从巫统说起:

再益在上个月甫上任时,建议政府向被革职的前联邦法院院长敦沙列阿巴斯以及5名被革职及停职的最高法院法官道歉.

再来就是国大党主席三美威鲁,立场急转弯,今日开腔吁请政府释放5名遭内安法令扣留的兴都权益行动委员会(Hindraf,简称兴权会)的领袖。他指出,其中两名被扣留者应该获得提早释放,即目前病重的耿卡哈兰(R Kenghadharan),以及在本届大选中选为民主行动党哥打阿南莎州议员的玛诺卡兰(M Manoharan)。

接着这位就是我们2008年最佳大汉贱(黄老鸭)
馬華總會長超级大汉贱(黄老鸭)支持成立獨立司法委員會,全面處理法官的委任及擢升,他同時也認同霹靂攝政王拉惹納茲林“司法復興”的號召。

  他指出,在第十二屆大選期間,出現一些纏繞著國陣的不利議題,其中一項就是20年前司法公正及獨立判決的問題。國陣必須正視目前司法界所面對的問題,並以實際行動推動司法復興,加強人民對司法制度的信任。

  “馬華支持成立所建議的獨立司法委員會,必須以透明化的制度委任法官,並在公平的情況下,擢升最有才能及廉正的法官。此外,政府也須在不分種族的情況下,委任更多擁有良好執業素質的律師擔任法官。”

  馬華堅持三權分立

  黃家定強調,馬華堅持聯邦憲法中的三權分立,即立法、司法與行政三權分立,以有效保障全民的利益。

  他進一步表示,民事法庭的法官必須拿出司法勇氣與智慧,依據憲法中所闡明世俗法的本質,作出最正確及公平的判決。法官對各案件必須一視同仁,不受本身的信仰及價值觀所影響,或屈服於極端言論的壓力。

  他最後強調,法官必須秉持司法公正的精神,堅持“法律面前,人人平等”的原則,以及在不分種族、性別及宗教的情況下,遵守及實踐憲法精神

这一刻是人民非常反感的时期做出非常假的行为........!!!

(我想在这问问大家,(itz right????)

其实我想在这跟大家先腾清下,本人是一名在新加坡工作的马来西亚人民,为什么我会飘扬过海???以前的人都所谓"人离乡贱",是我想要的吗?还是环境所避的?不过在这次308政治大海啸过去以后,我有了临时性的改变,现在的我觉得马来西亚找到它的弱点了,就如敦马哈迪所说的“锯掉烂脚来挽救生命”

马哈迪根据自己行医的经验指出,医生治病就是要给病人要吃药,即使药难吃,病人还是得吃药。他形容,巫统现在就像严重烂脚的病人一样,惟有将脚锯掉,病人才有活命的机会。

所以还是那一句"到黄是第一步"

拿督蔡细历All the best....

Lysendar said...

Dear Dr. Chua,

Can you please keep us inform about the forum at Penang tonight as some of us from other states of Malaysia.
Thanks

Malaysian Joe said...

Doc,

He cycles la... how do you expect him to reach Perak, Penang, Kedah and Selangor??? Johor itself is soooooo BIG... cycle around Kulai and Tg. Piai maybe la..

anyway... if you think he is wrong, you can challenge him. I am not an MCA member.. nor a DAP member nor a Gerakan member.. so I cant provide any support that is tangible to your quest but you have my ermmm... moral support.

iamataxpayer said...

-->We told Chinese to vote for MCA so that we could have Cabinet representation..

So? What kind of "reprensentation" you MCA people talk about? Bring the messenge down from "top" to us (chinese lar) and "force" us to accept? If this is so, then we are enough to have newspaper or TV. Why we need MCA?

iamataxpayer said...

Mr Chua
I have one humble suggestion, please take it openly even if you do not like it. Would you please consider to stop use "dr" title, this is because you have admitted to public (i saw in newspaper) that you have been stopped practicing medicine for a long times.

albert1951 said...

Dr Chua,
As far as you are concerned to me,you are a remarkable man.However,you are too much engaged in political matter and neglect lavishing yourself in decadent way of life.Thus,I suggest you to go to China with me next month and of course you got to bear all the traveling expenses as my financial is not so solid.
I know very well in China especially Dongguan and Shenzhen.I have been there several times and surely you won't get disappointed to visit.
The local food there is delicious especially their steamed rice.
We can go to the foot massage center to wash our toes and just relaxed.We can have full body massage too and the charge is very cheap.
If you wish to go with me,please let me know in advance so that I can prepare before hand.11th April 2008

glokal said...

It is a strategic move by the president to prempt the influence of Dr. Chua in Johor. Now, Dr. Chua's son is a MP and Dr. Chua is still a respected senior leader in MCA. If Dr. Chua stay quiet and fade away, thing will be nice. However, if Dr. Chua wants to challenge the President, thing will be different. First, what is the purpose of the challenge? Second, what will be its positive effect on MCA as a whole. Finally, how relevant will be MCA in Malaysia's pilitical landscape with a new President? It is better to look ahead and give party's new talents a greater responsibility.

STEViE said...

we need a leader that can think for the future of MCA.

Act of passing the baton to relatives will only make RAKYAT believe that they are trying to make MCA their own party. This will only do more damages to the party.

How are all these leaders going to convince the RAKYAT that they really want to change?!?!

This is a difficult time for MCA and any component parties of BN. So, please do something that can win the people heart back.

MCA, You have another 4 more years to prove yourselves, oherwise you will become an opposition party.

Lysendar said...

Dear Dr. Chua,

I have few questions for you. Hope that you don't mind to answer me.

1.) As the rumour saying that you are making a come back to politic, and also going to challange the MCA president OKT for the upcoming party election. Is it true?

2.) If it is true and if you win the president post, what are your vision and mission for MCA after become the president?

3.) If it is true and if you win the president post how are you going to position the NEW MCA in BN and also in chinese community?

4.) Like what others suggestion, will there be a possiblity for all the parties in BN to form a ONE BN, rather than the current situation? Why?

Thank you very much only if you don't mind to share with your supporters.

albert1951 said...

蔡先生,
你在政治几十年了,有什么没看过。是一名老手了。不过也想不到会栽在你的infamous sex scandal 里头。不然的话,你现在还是一个卫生部长,很多人都要奉承你,你也不必写什么blog 让人们comment 你或听人家笨蛋的comments.你也有苦自己知。sigh 很多次吧
现在的politicians 开始知道blog 的重要,所以很多人都开始学blogspot.com 了。好像小孩子那样。
我本人也有blog 呢。不过我只是写我的日记罢了。不会给人comment 的。我去什么地方玩,和美女约会等,我都会写在我的博客(blog)里,有空时打开来看。quite interesting and amusing !

Albert 1951,Penang

albert1951 said...

蔡先生,
你都已是60多岁的老头子了,还争什么党的职位,马华给人家的印象不好,整天想怎样去讨好UMNO,一点都没有为华人着想。黄家定整天想怎样帮他的弟弟出位,那里还有时间呢。马华太乱了,陈广才看了不对净也说身体健康有问题,不打算做了。你呢,还想要revent 你的党,你也太天真了。都7老8老了,可以full retire 然后去tour the world.你的钱又不是没有,没有你,MCA 也有人去管的,不用你去worry.
我有一个朋友,开了三间工厂,生意做的很大,赚了很多钱,我和他讲,可以让他的手下做而他可以半退休。但是他说不放心,所以每天忙到晚上,很少有娱乐和rest.最后contract stomach cancer and die.他的公司也听说给别人拿去了。
要是他听我的话,我带他去中国玩,开开心放松心情,我想他现在还好活得好好的。
你们这些大人物,就是因为习惯给人奉承,所以每次放不下,以为没有你,我们华人就不能活的样子。要是你能看开点,生活就会很快乐的,try to be an ordinary folk,you will live happier.
Albert 1951 from Penang

LohSH said...

Albert 1951

很欣赏和羡慕你逍遥的心态。

一种米养百种人,而人各有志,且让每个人选择他认为有意义而愿意去做的事。

当百花齐放放时,这个世界会变得更美好更灿兰。

LohSH said...

Dear Albert 1951

Live and let live.

The world is definitely a more interesting place or more lively with different ideas and different people, like u and dr chua, around.

albert1951 said...

lohsh,

I agree with what you said.If everybody is like me philandering around with young women,our country will have no bright future ahead.We need an aggressive and brilliant politician like Dr Chua.What I actually want to say is that our lifespan is short and we mustn't take things too seriously.Since Dr Chua is feeling distraught and agitated by the recent malicious sex scandal,I am just offering him an advice to soothe his stress and asked him to go overseas with me.This will then alleviate his grief over this scandalous episode.
Obviously he has been trapped by his rival who is jealous of his success .And surely you can guess who is the culprit behind this political conspiracy.
Though he is not my friend,but I know he is a good guy.From his handsome face,he looks very sincere and not crooked type.He bites the bullet to apologize to public suggested that he is a brave old man!

Albert 也是老人。14-4-2008星期一槟城

lek said...

Dr. Chua

I honestly believe your are the only ture leader than can take MCA out of this difficult situations.

Others just politician. You are a ture leader to the chinese community.

Welcome to my Blog

As a concerned MCA member, I am trying my best to help in the process of rebuilding and repositioning of the party.

Therefore, I welcome party members and members of public to post your constructive suggestions and opinions on my blog on how to rebuild and reform the party, eventually enabling MCA to regain support from all party members and the community.


Thank you for your suggestions.