Thursday, April 24, 2008

MCA President as an ordinary backbencher, good or bad? 当总会长只是国会后座议员

The MCA President becoming an ordinary backbencher in the Parliament! To Ong Ka Ting, it is a huge sacrifice personally, supposedly so that he can spend time rebuilding party. One of the selling points of MCA during the general election to the Chinese community was that a vote for MCA = representation for the chinese community in the cabinet.

Today, as the most senior leader in MCA, OKT chose to opt out of the cabinet, purportedly to spend time to rebuild the party. However, it is glaringly obvious that this is his personal strategy and agenda to enable his brother to enter the cabinet, and at the same time, to strengthen himself within the party to face the party elections. This is obvious because the first thing he did was appoint himself as chairman of the Johor MCA. Despite the political tsunami that affected BN, BN and MCA Johor did creditably. 85 percent of MCA candidates won. Compare this Penang - KOSONG, Perak - not even 10%. Selangor more of the same! Negeri Sembilan in which he headed as the state chairman, well, its 1 state assembly seat out of 10 - and 'bungkus' all the parliamentary seats..

Since becoming the state chairman of Johor, some of his boys have been spreading the gospel truth that because he has taken over the state chairmanship, the support for him as President of MCA has gone up tremendously. Congratulations to President and MCA Johor as well as the Chinese community. Now, the question is, since his presence has boosted up the image of MCA and the Chinese community confidence towards MCA in Johor, why doesn't the president consider going to boost the other states like Perak, Selangor and Negeri Sembilan? Maybe he has no guts to go to a state which has a hostile environment towards MCA in order to rebuild the party, but would rather 'goyang kaki' and entrench himself, within the party, in Johor, a less hostile environment.

Also, if the MCA President, now being a backbencher in parliament and having submitted questions which was published in the press today which covers questions ranging from the security situation to Chinese schools clearly indicates that the president must have been sleeping as a Cabinet Minister for the last 8 years. Why ask these questions now when he had 8 years to do so? Or is it to seek publicity - to prove that now they can shout as loud as the opposition? It seems that after MCA has suffered its worst defeat ever, the MCA President is only reduced to asking questions in Parliament, rather than championing the rights of the Chinese community in the Cabinet. Don't blame Chinese for being disillusioned with MCA, many MCA leaders and members share the same feeling, but will not voice out due to the climate of fear in the party...
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今天,马华总会长只是一名普通的国会后座议员。

过去,马华一直强调“投选马华以确保内阁有华人代表”,而黄家定赢了大选却拒绝入阁出任部长,选当一个普通的议员以把时间放在重建党,对他个人而言是很大的牺牲。

今天,黄家定身为马华之首,扬言不当官是为了整顿党,但你我都了解这是总会长以退为进的策略,即保送其兄入阁,本身则巩固在党内的势力以应付党选,当他委任自己出任柔佛马华州联委会主席后,更彰显其司马昭之心。

在第12届全国大选,柔佛州国阵和马华的成绩最为理想,面对在野党和反风的攻势,85%的马华候选人仍成功守土和蝉联;反观其他州的马华队伍则不敌反风,槟城全军覆没、霹雳和雪兰莪州只剩10%以及他本身领导的森美兰只剩一州议员。

自从总会长坐镇柔州马华后,他的支持者认为主子已得天下,开始口出狂言。我恭喜总会长、恭喜柔州马华、恭喜华社。好了,既然总会长这么做(已)为马华为华社赢得好评,为马华加分,为何不趁势追击,考虑去打救霹雳、雪兰莪、森美兰等州呢?也许他没有勇气去面对四面楚歌的槟、霹、雪、森州马华。

有人在报章指总会长提呈国会会议的10个问题显示,黄家定在过去8年好像不太了解政府的操作,因为他所提问的事项,身为内阁部长应该有或可以取得相关的资料。今天,马华受到重创后,一党之首理应在最前线为华社争取,但他却只在后座议员的座位上提问。

不要责怪华社对马华失望,事实上很多马华领袖和党员也感同身受。

31 comments:

novice101 said...

Know you have an axe to grind with Ong Ka Ting. I'm not a suppoter of either of you.

You said Ong chose to be chairman of Johore MCA because Johore has a more friendly environment. This tells a lot about your own power base and your influence in Johore, doesn't it. You know why he takes over Johore, you mean to tell me, you allow him to go there to walk all over you?

You claimed Johore MCA won about 85% of the seats it contested in the last election. Can you tell me are these in constituencies with Chinese majorities?

From this sentence ("....the MCA President is only reduced to asking questions in Parliament, rather than championing the rights of the Chinese community in the Cabinet....) of yours, it clearly shows, it wasn't only Ong who was alseep. It reveals you had also been alseep. What championing of the Chinese rights are you talking about? Had you all been doing just this, the Chinese wouldn't had given you all such a severe bashing!

There is another sign that you are still alseep - you cautioned Ong that the Chinese are disillusioned with what he is doing. The truth is the Chinese has given up on the whole MCA. Disillusioned, is just too mild, a word!

teong wha said...

Ka Ting is not important to Chinese Malaysians so he is free to do whatever he desires.Whether he is a cabinet minister or not got nothing to do with us since MCA is not our concerned.However,MCA members should clamor for Ka Ting to take up a minister post because members can benefit from his position.

CP Waterman said...

MCA president not taking a cabinet post is going down to be one of the biggest jokes coming from Malaysia. Do you see the state of a dog after losing a fight? Well this is the picture OKT is presenting himself to millions of Chinese in the country by not taking up a cabinet post.

Can you imagine the HEAD of the second largest component party in Barisan National is not physically available at hand in the all important cabinet meetings?

LohSH said...

黄家定在当今大马访谈中说道:

“。。。我放弃了最有吸引力的权力与官位。。。我不恋栈官职,其实这是很不容易做到的事情,可是我做到了。。。”

“。。。对一个从政者而言,很多人希望坐上这个位就是希望当上那个官。现在最有吸引力的官位,我都不做了。。。“

“。。。做官没有讲话。。。因为做官话讲不出来。。。绑手绑脚。不做官有不做官的好处。。。”

非常让人惊讶的是黄家定把做官的责任和荣耀给颠倒了。做官的责任是为国家和人民服务,以天下为己任是也。先尽责任方可谈随之而来的荣耀。

假如说黄家定是清高的辞官归故里,那末马华的四位部长可不变成了是漏夜赶科场吗?

往后的国会里,人民将看到马华总会长在后座向政府发问问题,马华四位在前座代表政府的部长将如何去面对这尴尬的局面呢?

这是马华的政治突破还是死胡同,或是政治小丑戏呢?且让马华自己去断论吧。

99 said...

I think for Ong Ka Ting to pose so many questions now to show he is concern about chinese welfare is a Sandiwara. He should done this long before the recent election. I think to show now is to gain popularity and support. Hello we are all grown up and know what you are up to la..... Please
As for OngKT coming to JB state, please i think it is too late. People know your motive la so Dato prepare for massive attack soon, battle should be near. Dato wake up put your gear and start patrolling your territory....

sonialee8888@yahoo.com said...

Mca has a long history of helping the chinese and will do so now and through the long future. Novice101, you are saying that MCA is useless and CSL and OKT are sleeping, then come out and be an MP and show us u can do better. CSL and OKT have not been asleep, they have been working too.

I think that OKT being a backbencher is not a big matter, just wait till the MCA party elections to decide. Ong Ka Chuan seems to be a good leader ,at least to me, better than OKT. Dato Seri, u are good but u are getting old. Just live your old age in peace and let your son work his way up step by step.

Both BN and PR has good and credible leaders. Choose and vote for good leaders but do not based candidates on the political party they come from. Grow up Malaysian Voters. Know what you want. Not vote blindly.

MCA Johor should have the rights to vote for their own Chairman. I would vote for Tan Kok Hong. He is well know to be hardworking and detail in his work although a bit low profile. I do not understand why he could only be an acting chairman when many were expecting him to be MCA johor chairman.

Anyway God Bless Malaysia.

glokal said...

It looks like once united Johor MCA is divided now. Dato Ong Ka Ting should not contest the president post again, he has his chance and he fails to deliver.

Lysendar said...

Dear Dr. Chua,

As a president of the party, he/she should involved in all the issues not only concern the party, but also the country as whole. Moreover, the party president is also elected MP, also need to answer to the constituencies. With 24 hrs a day, does he/she have enough time to do so many things???

God will know..

kangcs said...

I dread to think of Malaysia’s future when Najib is appointed PM. I would say that Malaysia stands a better chance to ‘re-form’ Abdullah Ahmad Badawi than to ask him to resign.'


On Is Najib another Dr M in the making?

Abby Ong: In short, my answer would be ‘much worse’ than Dr M. Personally, I find Najib lacks compassion for the rakyat. From the setting up of the so-called ‘National Service’ to his current role as DPM, whatever ‘contribution’ he has made was self-interest motivated. Has anyone checked who runs and owns the uniform-making outfit for our National Service youngsters?

I dread to think of Malaysia’s future when Najib is appointed PM. A leader by example, Najib is definitely not. It is in this context that I would say that Malaysia stands a better chance to ‘re-form’ Abdullah Ahmad Badawi than to ask him to resign. The ‘Pak Lah’ I knew when he was our Foreign Minister was a compassionate civil servant ever ready to serve the rakyat.

Perhaps, because of Endon’s death and subsequent events that followed have caused him to lose his direction and focus. Let us, as rakyat Malaysia, remind him of the commitment that he made when he was given the appointment to lead Malaysia as PM. Let us continue to remind him that he serves the rakyat and therefore needs to listen to the rakyat and not someone else’s (you know who) grievances and instigation. Perhaps when Abdullah is back on the right track, so to would Malaysia be. As the famous quotation reads ‘Leadership by example’. Hear our cries, Pak Lah and buck up.

Malaysian Joe: From the many events and statements made, I do not think for one moment that Najib is another Dr M in the making. However, it makes me think that Najib is already the PM of Malaysia.

Reason being, how can he so detached? The PM had said that he regretted the wrong done to the six judges in 1988 only to be rebutted by his deputy the very next day.

Now, take two: when the PM made a flip flop on Lee Kah Choon's acceptance of his job with the new Penang state government. The PM fell in line with what his deputy had said earlier? Does that not show us that our PM is actually below the DPM now?

kangcs said...

I dread to think of Malaysia’s future when Najib is appointed PM. I would say that Malaysia stands a better chance to ‘re-form’ Abdullah Ahmad Badawi than to ask him to resign.'


On Is Najib another Dr M in the making?

Abby Ong: In short, my answer would be ‘much worse’ than Dr M. Personally, I find Najib lacks compassion for the rakyat. From the setting up of the so-called ‘National Service’ to his current role as DPM, whatever ‘contribution’ he has made was self-interest motivated. Has anyone checked who runs and owns the uniform-making outfit for our National Service youngsters?

I dread to think of Malaysia’s future when Najib is appointed PM. A leader by example, Najib is definitely not. It is in this context that I would say that Malaysia stands a better chance to ‘re-form’ Abdullah Ahmad Badawi than to ask him to resign. The ‘Pak Lah’ I knew when he was our Foreign Minister was a compassionate civil servant ever ready to serve the rakyat.

Perhaps, because of Endon’s death and subsequent events that followed have caused him to lose his direction and focus. Let us, as rakyat Malaysia, remind him of the commitment that he made when he was given the appointment to lead Malaysia as PM. Let us continue to remind him that he serves the rakyat and therefore needs to listen to the rakyat and not someone else’s (you know who) grievances and instigation. Perhaps when Abdullah is back on the right track, so to would Malaysia be. As the famous quotation reads ‘Leadership by example’. Hear our cries, Pak Lah and buck up.

Malaysian Joe: From the many events and statements made, I do not think for one moment that Najib is another Dr M in the making. However, it makes me think that Najib is already the PM of Malaysia.

Reason being, how can he so detached? The PM had said that he regretted the wrong done to the six judges in 1988 only to be rebutted by his deputy the very next day.

Now, take two: when the PM made a flip flop on Lee Kah Choon's acceptance of his job with the new Penang state government. The PM fell in line with what his deputy had said earlier? Does that not show us that our PM is actually below the DPM now?

yapchongyee said...

It is true that March 8 has come and PKR now renamed Pakatan has "won" the election, but the arguements that I advanced in the letter published before the election is still relevant. tHE cHINESE COMPONENTS OF THE bARISAN pARTY ARE THE BIGGEST TRAITORS OF THE cCINESE PEOPLE, AND IT WILL BE GOOD IF YOU REALISE THAT YOU ARE THE BIGGEST LIABILITY FOR THE CHINESE PEOPLE ACHIEVING EQUALITY WITH THE MALAYS.

From the perspective of all our Chinese people, IT WILL BE BEST IF MCA & GERAKAN ARE BOTH MADE TO DIE OFF AND WITHER ON THE VINE


I call on my Chinese and Indian brothers NOT TO VOTE FOR MCA MIC AND GERAKAN, because a vote to any of these bloodsuckers is a vote for UMNO. We have lived under the UMNO government for more than 50 years and in that time we Chinese & Indians were led by those MCA, MIC & Gerakan traitors to our people. Malaysia today is the same Malaysia of 50 years ago; Malaysia is still RACE BASED and Chinese & Indians are at the rock bottom of the pile; we do not want to be the “sidekick” of UMNO. Chinese & Indians have been sold out to UMNO just so that a few political charlatan in MCA can become MINISTER and in MIC, this fucking Samy Velloo arsehole has been “MENTRI” for 30 years and he has become rich, while other Indians can hardly make ends meed.

There is a myth that our Chinese can do well in Bussiness, but that is only possible if Chinese are allowed to function in an environment of the level playing field, but Chinese people must admit to themselves that we Chinese are no miracle worker. We cannot do well if we are prohibited from operating fairly; AND UNDER THE DOMINATION AND OPPRESSION OF UMNO, we Chinese & Indians are fucking deprived of the simple opportunity to operate. WHATEVER GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS ARE AWARDED GOES TO MALAYS AND THE MALAY CONTRATOR KNOWS FUCK ALL ABOUT COMPLETING THE CONTRACT AND HE GOES TO FIND A CHINESE TO DO THE CONTRACT; this makes the Malay who knows fuck all TAKE THE LIONS SHARE OF THE PROFITS. What is worst is the fact the Chinese contractor seldom gets paid or if at all after a very long delay.

UMNO has become a Malay Masonic lodge of a small group of very privileged Malays who think nothing of corrupting the system to enrich themselves. I say to our Chinese & Indian comrades NOT VOTE MCA, MIC & GERAKAN because a vote to them is a vote for UMNO. The curse of UMNO has to be broken. UMNO is the DAM WALL that holds up progress of all Malaysians to wards a UNITED MALAYSIA of one people NOT THE DOMINATION OF MALAYS OVER THE MARGINALISED CHINESE & INDINS. This is the year when UMNO is led by a Prime Minister who sleeps at Parliamentary Sessions and this is the year that UMNO can be broken. I say to all our Chinese & Indian comrades to UNITE, and I say to those who would lead Chinese & Indians not to fight over “SEATS and for them not to seek “PANKAT” ( high social status ).

I read in this morning’s STAR.COM.MY a very powerful article written by a Malay (forget his name) and he argues along the same lines as I have argued in my blog at http://yapchongyee.blogspot.com, that our entire focus ought to be directed towards defeating UMNO in all ways that we can think of because it is UMNO that seeks to dominate and hold dictatorship over the Chinese & Indians. We need to concentrate all our efforts towards support of PAS, DAP and Keadilan. I have even gone to propose that dato Seri be the “OPPOSITION” SUPREMOE so that any overly ambitious persons who only wants “pankat” will be eliminated. Dato Seri must be trusted to DICTATE who is the most likely to win election for the constituency. Do not fight for “seats”. We are most interested to gain a FREE & JUST MALAYSIA FOR ALL MALAYSIANS AS ONE PEOPLE. To achieve this noble objective we need to OBLITERATE UMNO; a party that has for too long brought nothing but hardship to all Chinese & Indians. This fact is also known among Malays who do not have strong connection to powerful members of UMNO. Ordinary Malays do not get privileges; only those who have connection enjoy opportunities.

The first task for any new government that comes in on the ouster of the UMNO government IS TO REFORM THE JUDICIARY, so that Judges will enforce and faithfully apply the existing laws and not pervert the course of justice, as has been done today. Malaysia has a broken down 3rd rate and 3rd class, 3rd world judiciary; this is a pity because in the old days we could reply on our judiciary to deliver a just outcome, but not any more in todays Malaysia. There are several cases when Judges are found not to apply the law as they are obliged to do; but instead to act so obviously out side the law to achieve an agenda that is purely selfish and personal either for corrupt personal gain or to achieve what the government wants. I have written so many comments about the but it has gone unheard. It is indeed regrettable that those who destroy the judiciary, do not ven stop to think that when one has CONNECTION ONE GETS ONE’S WAY by perverting the law; but then they who do these perversion of the law do not bother to think that why they are out of office, the injustice and hardship may fall on them who subvert the professionalism and ethical conduct of the judges. A good example is that of Tun Mahatir, He has retired but a god will have it Tun Mahatir is working “over-drive” to GAIN JUSTICE AND THE RULE OF LAW, the sanctity of the rule of law, that he had subverted himself when he was PM.

The English Common Law that is the law of Malaysia does not need any drastic changes and there are adequate provision in our Malaysian Law to achieve justice according to law. There exist adequate provisions in English Criminal law to punish and remove judges for abuse of their powers; as for example my campaign to expose Judge Zainon binti Mohd. Ali for perverting the course of justice. She was the presiding judge in my wife’s petition and judge Zainon binti Mohd. Ali acted to aid & abet the respondents, Wong Kem Chen, Stephen Lim Cheng Ban and Kwong Sea Yoon to PERJURE & FORGE MY WIFE’S SIGNATURE AND JUDGE ZAINON BINTI MOHD. ALI knew that my wife’s and my charges are correct and true; and in spite of this knowledge she went on to act in a most ridiculous, shameful and ignorant manner, so much so that her actions became criminal and she in fact face criminal charges of the most serious kind. The most obvious charge arise from her awarding tow conflicting orders (1) ORDER for security for costs, which my wife paid (2) Order for striking out petition. These two orders oppose each other and they cancel each other out so that her actions restored the life of my wife’s petition. Judge Zainon binti Mohd. Ali in her ignorance of her own actions is GUILTY OF RETAINING MY WIFE/S RM,60,000 UNSANCTIONED BY LAW. Judge Zainon binti Mohd. Ali acting in conspiracy with Wong Kem Chen, Stephen Lim Cheng ban & Kwong Sea Yoon having to commit perjury and forgery to obtain the RM. 60,000 had jointly committed conspiracy to obtain money under false pretences because at the time that the 4 parties took the said RM.60,000, they all conspired to cause the striking out of said petition. In addition, by the action of Judge Zainon binti Mohd. Ali approving respondents’ application to STRIKE OUT PETITION, she had intentionally and deliberately refused to ENFORCE HER ORDER FOR SECURITY FOR COSTS, even after Petitioner had paid her RM.60,000 pursuant to her order to provide security for costs. Her two opposing orders was meaningless nonsense; and illogical. In short she had committed the offence of MALFEASANCE and upon conviction face expulsion from her judicial appointment.

tc88 said...

Though you have an axe to grind with Ong ka Ting, you nevertheless, have good insights and I agree with you that the President of MCA should be in the Cabinet to represent the party and fulfill MCA's commitment of representing the Chinse in the Government. All the more this time around when the 4 MCA ministers are first-time ministers. It would not be so bad if amongst them there was a one-term Minister.

With 4 first-time ministers in the cabinet, who is the spokesperson? In the past the President is the spokesman. Now with the President and Deputy not in the cabinet, who is the leader?

Ong Ka Ting excluding himself out of the cabinet may be construed as spending more time to prepare for his re-election as President again in the coming MCA election. Thus I wonder whether the 4 new ministers and deputy ministers will actully be working in their assigned ministries or busy campaigning for the party election. Perhaps it might be a better decision to hold the party elections before the General Elections. In this way, there is less politiking.

Looking at the General Election, you have analysed the situation well citing a congluence of factors that resulting in an earthquakes for BN. The after-shocks are now surfacing within each of the BN parties and between BN component parties. Perhaps UMNO and MCA division leaders were focused on their own party elections knowing that as always in the past 50 years, the BN will sweep through and form the government. This has encouraged the division and branch leaders to put aside the general elections and instead campaign for the party elections.

jbslowman said...

Dr,

for OKT, whatever he does, all for his family....do you think it is easy to have brothers to head MCA in the party history after the Late TAN CHENG LOCK (father & son)? he is trying to create another history for MCA.

therefore, it is for MCA members to decide on whether they want this to happen.

if YES - vote them in the coming party election without looking at the performance and credibility; or

if NOT - reject them unanimously in the coming party election.

WISE MCA MEMBERS, pls decide......

novice101 said...

sonia8888@yahoo.com , checking your blog profilr, we roughly know who you are. Can't accept criticism, then why do you want to blog for?

Alan said...

I'm sad that my comment was not approved by you. I was pointing out some real issue & was censored?

If this is not approved too, there's no point to come back here.

monsterball said...

Ong Ka Ting was chosen by Ling Liong Sek. Ling's reputation is one Hakka that talks alot ...with no substances...a balls carrier to Mahathir...so similar to Samy Vellu. He can promise haven and hell. He speaks very well...but a real bullshitter.
So go and conclude...who is OKT.
MCA is at the lowest...since LLS became their President....same a UMNO with Mahathir.
MCA is an out-dated.. racialist party. Malaysian Chinese have always objected to that.yet they never change..because UMNO can get them elected with Malay votes...all those 50 years.
They are selfish fools...great actors...to be fitlhy rich themselves.

Simon Wee said...

mosterball,

good lah at least now you are talking some sense instead of spewing expletives and nonsense. If you carry on like this then I may support you and show my fact after all this blog is your last frontier.

rgds

Simon

Zhuang Tze (庄子) said...

Dr.
I am Johorean and now living in Selangor.
I have never voted for opposition since 1974,but I voted for the opposition in the 2008 GE.
I did that because I saw the deterioration of the quality of the MCA Councilors, ADUNs ,MPs as well as the Senators.
Recently,MCA had field many mediocre people in all the posts mentioned.Some of them could not even speak the Bahasa Malaysia or English properly.
How can I expect those people to fight for our rights when they are so handicapped in expressing themselves?
I hope my little comment here will
help you in your plans of reforming the MCA.I also hope that I can continue to support the MCA in the next GE.

monsterball said...

Simon Wee....You said I challenged you...so you exposed all of me....including my home address.
Everyone knows ...you did that to be a balls carrier to pro Mahathir bloggers and trying to get attention...to be a hero..to be employed.
I have challenged you so many times..to prove you are not a pimp..selling your wife as a prostitute...living on her income..and a running dog for the Malays. I challenge you to expose your face and home address...to meet me face to face.
You brag...being an active MCA member. Dr.Chua was exposed by own party member. Someone have to video tape him....to do him up!! That someone must have Simon Wee qualifications....as he claimed to be trained by Russian and USA...as an investigator....a spy job qualification. If Simon does not suit being employed as spying doctor...who is?? All I ask...is Doc..just take note. I am not jumping to conclusion..but it is destiny...after more than two years....I found Simon Wee here...and now talking to me.
Is he feeling comfortable...being at home in an MCA blog?
He is now riding a motor bike...snooping at husbands and wives....for divorces.
Go to his blog and read how he brags....with his credentials.
He is the worst type of blogger in the world....exposing others...hiding at bushes...pretending...acting..somewhere..faceless...homeless...destroying other peoples happiness for a fee. This is the lowest grade of chinese in Malaysia....and sooner or latter ...I will find him.
Right now....let every Malaysian Chinese can judge both of us.
Only in blogging...one can do or say...as he/she likes....but there is a limit to everything...and Simon Wee exceeded the limit...for a small fee from a malay. He is an MCA chinese running dog for other races...for a fee.
He is so proud to be MCA active member....so he said!!
I am 69 years old...he called me "ah Soon"...to impress others...how brave he was.
He advised me not to travel or vote...before the election. Can you imagine a punk like him...talking cock like that?? I travel 3 times a year .for more than 35 years. I walked at BERSIH and Hindraf...got torrid rains and tear gas treatments..and voted. I fought at May 13th..live through World War2....and let a pariah low class chinese ..to tell me all these??
Just look at his message to me....like nothing happened..trying to be nice..yet dare not meet me. Why??
It's blogging...so easy to talk cock and bull.
It's spying...so easy for Simon Wee to tape sex acts....to get others into trouble.for a fee.
You think ...such a guy...can be trusted??
Someone have to do a dirty job. Let it be me..so expose his face and address....and I will teach him a lesson...he will never forget.

monsterball said...

Show your face and address....Simon Wee.
You mean this is your last frontier. Don't try to behave.. cultured.. too smart with your braggart and english language to me.
You are capable to betray your best friend..that's how your character will be. Mark my word.
SHOW YOUR FACE AND ADDRESS!!

monsterball said...

Doc..You should know...how I feel about Simon Wee...and I have responded to his remarks. Why are they not put out?
Are you moderating me....supporting a MCA running dog??
I hope not. Please approve my messages.
It has a good lesson...to teach readers too.
Thanks in advance.

chaptokam said...

He has become a lame duck president . As for me the soonest he steps down the better it is for the party . I have over these years have no respect for the leadership of OKT . I believed he used dirty underhand tactics to win his position in the last party elections . I believe he swapped ballots during "recess" while the ballots were counted otherwise Jimmy Chua would have won the presidency .

monsterball said...

Dr.Chua...Thank you very much for not moderating my message.
I am sorry to use your blog like this...but I have no choice and sincerely appreciate your patience and tolerance.
I have been victimized by a faceless man.
Lets see if Simon Wee is a man or a rat. If he is a man...than ...reveal himself...as he revealed me!!
I promise...I will ignore and leave your blog voluntarily..if he appears commenting...like he did no wrong to me. You deserve peace...not quarrels in your blog.
I have said enough about MCA...and I gave you my sincere advise to leave MCA....and be real useful to Malaysians...away from UMNO...away from MCA..who are racialist parties...and truly full of weird characters in UMNO.. Why be in politics..with such racialists??

chaptokam said...

For the MCA President as an ordinary backbencher is as good as not being there in parliament . He is now not privilege to all the Cabinet decisions and is in no position to give and influence the outcome of the subject matter in discussion . For the first time the MCA deputy President is also not a cabinet minister , so this is where I feel MCA has become irrelevant in the sense that all the cuurent MCA Ministers are greenhorns , and are reduced to become spectators in the Cabinet . Being very new they will be subjected to senior ministry officials bypassing them or vital information being not accurately given . Already you can see an MCA minister making a blady fool of himself when Minister Ong Ka Chuan says only 'recognised institutions' will be given the license to teach how to clean toilets.

This prompted me to comment :
Rename the Ministry of Housing and Local Government the Ministry of Jamban and Local Toilets .And the Minister Ong Ka Chuan be designated officialy as the Minister in charge of Jamban and Toilets .
I would have designated someone from my ministry to come out with that statement but only someone with shit inside his brains will do that just to show that he is working . If MCA were to keep on having dumb , stupid , egoistic pea size brain ministers we might as well forget about MCA . To further touch on the OKC bloke , BN should hold him responsible for the disasterous showing in Perak thereby causing the Perak state government to fall into Opposition hands . He is the Perak state chairman but out of 16 state seats MCA only won one . ONE only !! can you believe that ? ? and yet the Triad brother still retained him as the Perak chief ! what utter nonsense is that ?? and he can be so shameless to nominate himself a datuk seri from the state . This is the kind of shameless , low class mentality MCA has , and worse a minister . For a Japanese politician , he would have committed HARA KIRI ,let alone submitting his name for bottle caps to hand around his piggy face and neck .
And that is not all , lately he has been linked to the acquisition of a piece of land which occupies 0.92ha of state land located in Pasir Pinji, Ipoh. This piece of land has been occupied by a soy factory operator since 1953. Details now emerge that the MCA division had intended to make a tidy profit from the land deal by selling the portion occupied by the soy factor to Yap , the factory owner .The two trustees who signed the letter (bearing the name of the division) were Chew the Division Chairman and division secretary Liew Ah Ming.
The State MCA chairman and brother to MCA president Datuk Ong Ka Chuan had played a role in the land deal as evidenced by his contribution of a RM100,000 cheque as part payment for the land premium of RM387,262,
So this is evidently abuse of power , corruption , all for his own benefits . Would you all who read this comments of mind tolerate this corrupted , shameless , brainless , dumb and stupid nincompoop of the highest order to still continue his position as MCA Sec Gen and a Minister ???
And finally , this shameless creature is going round to all the MCA divisions giving money , Yes giving money from his ministry . Does he ever realize that this is tax payers money meant to be used correctly and NOT meant to be used in MCA money politics to buy supporters and central delegates .This is corruption and am waiting for more detail information before the PM and ACA gets a copy of it . A little bird told me that recently the Pagoh Division in Johore stood to gain one million ringgit from this creatures kind contribution from his ministry's coffers . Lately he was seen in Langkawi with one Dep Minister from Perak meeting the Langkawi Division Chairman . what do you think he is doing there Sight seeing and promoting Visit Malaysia Year 2008?? Very soon we shall know . To get rid of this creature , the brother creature must be sent to the moon first and automatically he will have to join his brother there .

monsterball said...

High quality guys like Chua Ju Meng and Lim Ah Lek...gone ...due to balls carrying Ling Liong Sek... putting his puppet in MCA acting President...yet...all those guys stood by as candidates for MCA in last election..kept quiet...and now lost all...and are trying to find out why??
The answer to that is selfish and cunning hypocritical candidates...we voted all out.
We voted out racialist parties....supporting UMNO...as if Malays are our landlords ...and not as our equal Malaysians. How long does MCA politicians want to fool themselves......that majority Chinese do not support them..and they are voted in by Malay voters...not from chinese..yet.. they don't want to change...trying so hard to fool us with their success on Chinese schools matters...when so many important issues..they never fought for the Chinese at all.
They dare not...for if they do...they need to leave BN...so where do they go??

monsterball said...

Doc.I wish to part some general knowledge to small business men..if you don't mind.
The government will give 50% rewards...to anyone...giving informations..of companies...evading taxes....with sets of books to prove it....evading or paying less custom duties...or found one..that owes the government..and report so.
That informer stands to be rewarded..50% of what recovered!!
Usually...people with qualification to do spy work...getting close to the client...to spy on the wife's activities....will do this..as he already have no guilty conscience...to get others to divorce..or from a unreliable clerk...knows too much.
You see....no one cares to report...all these 50 years...even they know...because the said government is proven a corrupted government.... a racialist.....so why help a crook??
We know so much...and ignored..as life for Chinese is tough enough.
Yes..one of my inactive 28 year old company is being investigated right now....somehow seems to owe government some money!!
All they can do is wind it up...and take what is in the said company.
They cannot touch me!!
I advise people with reasonable business dealings...to register doing business under "Sdn. Bhd:"..meaning ....a "Limited Company" It is much safer...than sole propreiter operation.
Now ....you go and guess...who reported on me...dare to say it..but is faceless. Here you can see...this young punk...knows next to nothing...trying to brag and show off...hurting others...hoping to be employed by someone.love dirty work.
There are noble spies...giving up their lives for the country.
This type of spy on me.....is a low class Chinese worm.
But he is getting a whole lot of directors wanting to know him too!!

LohSH said...

黃家定在宣誓就任國會議員后重复之前所说,往後可以暢所欲言,不會感到綁手綁腳,为人民發言。

黃家定是否直接或间接告诉人民马华的四位部长将和以前一样,依旧是无所作为,而更有效的做法是劳动党的最高领袖在后座为人民代言呢?

这是一个执政成员党最高领袖所该扮演的角色和担当的责任吗?

马华的其他后座议员是否已足够担当这个角色呢?

这是马华新气象的第一章吗?还是马华历史里最愚和蠢的一招呢?

马华党员和代表务必三思。

Having sworn in as a parliamentarian, Ong Ka Ting reiterates that being out of the Cabinet, he is now free to express himself and raise issues at the backbench, without the binding constraints imposed on a minister.

Is Ong Ka Ting explicitly implying that the 4 MCA’s current ministers will face similar constraints that have handicapped him all along and thus remain as ineffective as before, and therefore he believes that MCA can only be effective with the party president playing the role of a vocal backbencher?

Is such a role befitting the position and responsibility of the president of a component party in a coalition government?

Are not MCA’s backbenchers good enough to play such a role?

Does MCA President’s new role open a refreshingly new era for MCA, or is it going to be the most stupid act in MCA’s long history?

The party members and delegates must decide.

chaptokam said...

LohSH said...

Having sworn in as a parliamentarian, Ong Ka Ting reiterates that being out of the Cabinet, he is now free to express himself and raise issues at the backbench, without the binding constraints imposed on a minister.

Is Ong Ka Ting explicitly implying that the 4 MCA’s current ministers will face similar constraints that have handicapped him all along and thus remain as ineffective as before, and therefore he believes that MCA can only be effective with the party president playing the role of a vocal backbencher?

As I mentioned before this is the caliber and mentality of the blockhead president . If he is INEFFECTIVE as a Cabinet Minister how can he be effective playing the role of a backbencher ? If he plays SILENT POLITICS in cabinet meetings that amounts to NO politics and remain a spectator in Cabinet . He ought to be representing NGOs rather than a political party .

I still remember when he took the lead in drafting a memorandum among the non Malay political parties on issues relating to religious freedom and the syriah and civil courts jurisdiction .They presented that to the PM was told not to disclosed what transpired in the meeting . However the blockhead wanted to make himself a HERO by leaking the meeting contents to the Chinese press. The Malay dailies picked up the leaked news and played it up . Subsequently the PM asked him to WITHDRAW the memorandum and that was liked a tight slap to his face . All of them has to back out of the joint memorandum except Bernard Dompok who refused to withdraw .

This shows the immaturity of the young chiku and trying to become a hero with a swollen head . In the end the hero had to remove all his clothings and showing his ass and bird for everyone to see including his hairs .

So how can OKT be effective when he totally incapable of doing anything right ?? whether as a minister , as a beckbencher or as the MCA president who only knows life long learning . I wonder what he learns ? or rather I gather that he has nothing to show other than harping on life long learning so that MCA people won't have time to think and learn how to topple him .

Finally to sum it up , he is just like a 600 cc engine fitted into a 10 ton truck . how do you expect the truck to move ???

一個人的寂寞 said...

蔡老大 ,
最近经常在新闻报章上看见有关你的新闻 ,
经过上次 “ 桃色风波 ” 的你 还能继续勇敢的站出来 , 为民服务 .....
这点小弟真的很敬佩 ...
而且也很欣赏您和令夫人的宽宏大量 ,
因为您的夫人的确为了您牺牲太大了...
试问天地下有哪位老婆能够容忍丈夫在外“偷吃”
而且还能若无其事的站出来挺丈夫 ....

虽然您俩的精神值得民众敬佩 ,
但是...
身为一位高官/公众人物 , 必须拿得起 , 放得下...
为民服务是对的 ,可是不必要在大选之后才来个马后炮 ,批评马华的高层 , 因为这样并非君子的行为 ,..
而且您必须明白 , 所有的人都有资格批评马华 , 唯有您不能 ...
因为之前您向全国人民表示将辞去所有党职 ,
一心一意只为民服务 ,
但是事情才过没多久 , 您就一直出来批评马华 , 难道这是为民服务的任务之一吗??
难道您的为民服务是指--为人民向马华开炮 ??
或许您已经老了 , 您也忘了之前曾经在马华服务过...
可是这一切都不能全怪您 , 因为最近的确发生了很多事 ,也许这一切影响了您的心情...

您年纪也不小啦 !希望您能早点退休吧 ,
在家多陪陪家人和教导您的儿子 ,
以免智勇兄在国会不会出丑....
在怎样说 , 国会都是大场面 , 一不小心出丑了将会连累到您的面子....


Jacky ( KLG )

Funniman1965 said...

Two ways of looking at things how to handle negotiations with BN.

One is a gung ho style of direct negotiation with BN and face off with any consequences whatever come may. We have to accept good results and we also have to accept all the negative results. However, you can show to all your people that you are one strong leader who dare it all and obviously everybody like you when good results are achieved but at the same time everybody would call you a stupid fool for confronting openly.

The other style is silent politics where you quietly negotiate and get the results without any loss of face to the BN for conceding. But in this way, no one knows what is happening and in the end everyone is suspicious of some secret deals you did for personal gain or otherwise.Everyone also hate you for they think you are not doing anything but at the same time whatever results you get, it may be not enough for the majority.

To me, there's no right or wrong answer or whichever the preferable way to move forward. You just have to play by your strengths. If you can grab the balls of the opponent, by all means go for it and maximise your negotiation power. If not, then beg for it and beggars don't have much to choose.

If MCA don't have the strength to grab the balls of others, then what's there to talk. Whether it is CSL, OKT, OTK, OKC leading the team, it doesn't matter. We just don't have the muscles. We can whine and have all axes to grind out in the open but this is not in a broader perspective.

Perhaps it is time to go the fitness clubs to train with other parties to get those rippling muscles.

Already I hear that MCA is now trying to be multiracial. In time to come, it would be like DAP or Gerakan. Chinese based but mutiracial platform. That I see it as a strategic move but it is only a long term plan. How do you expect other races to join the Chinese party when the Chinese are split into so many parties and groups?

What we need is the short term plan and is called CONSOLIDATION of the Chinese race. We need to enhance our fundamentals and build on the pillars of strengths. Get all the Chinese groups to talk.

ZORO said...

The President should be wise enough but if his decision turns out not working or satisfying to the grassroots; the coming party election shall decide. All leaders stick to what you're best at and contribute solidly for the party. Criticising each other's performance or actions, either internally or externally, should be acceptable for transparency sake. Every bodies has chance to express themselves and at least seen useful.

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